Comments on: Netbook: Search and Launch http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/ Just stuff ;) Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:59:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: morpheuz http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-173 morpheuz Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:52:03 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-173 @James: you are right. That was one of the main points to create different stuff for MIDs and for netbooks. But I try to keep this in mind for most of the stuff..but sometimes it's really difficult :) For MIDs we have some ideas that may work very well like overlays all around... Cheers, @James: you are right. That was one of the main points to create different stuff for MIDs and for netbooks. But I try to keep this in mind for most of the stuff..but sometimes it’s really difficult :) For MIDs we have some ideas that may work very well like overlays all around…

Cheers,

]]> By: James http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-172 James Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:47:06 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-172 Just a thought - if you widen your paradigm a bid to MIDs as well as Netbooks (virtually the same interface could work for both), then you would want to make sure there are alternate was to get to any "Hover"-triggered actions (such as a right-click menu) - there isn't really a good "Hover" functionality capable on a touchscreen, but a right-click->Add/Remove to/from Favorites would work very nicely. -James Just a thought – if you widen your paradigm a bid to MIDs as well as Netbooks (virtually the same interface could work for both), then you would want to make sure there are alternate was to get to any “Hover”-triggered actions (such as a right-click menu) – there isn’t really a good “Hover” functionality capable on a touchscreen, but a right-click->Add/Remove to/from Favorites would work very nicely.

-James

]]> By: morpheuz http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-171 morpheuz Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:30:05 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-171 @Jeffery:Nothing stops us to go ahead and think about a MID version for plasma. But maybe we lack resources to keep both projects going on at the same time. But let's see: it would be awesome to still have a MID version to run on mobile phones and also on MIDs ;) @Jeffery:Nothing stops us to go ahead and think about a MID version for plasma. But maybe we lack resources to keep both projects going on at the same time. But let’s see: it would be awesome to still have a MID version to run on mobile phones and also on MIDs ;)

]]> By: Jeffery http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-170 Jeffery Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:27:10 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-170 @Morpheuz: okay, thanks for clearing that up. I must say that I'm a bit disappointed, but netbooks are definitely more in need of something like this, especially with the crazy setups OEMs seem to like preinstalling. (blech) If they started using a system like this, that would be great. I'm wondering, though... does this project preclude an official version of plasma for MIDs later, or have you just changed focus for now? @Morpheuz: okay, thanks for clearing that up. I must say that I’m a bit disappointed, but netbooks are definitely more in need of something like this, especially with the crazy setups OEMs seem to like preinstalling. (blech) If they started using a system like this, that would be great. I’m wondering, though… does this project preclude an official version of plasma for MIDs later, or have you just changed focus for now?

]]> By: morpheuz http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-169 morpheuz Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:21:51 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-169 @Jeffrey:Hi :) Yes, sometime ago (and even on techbase's link) we talked about MIDs in general. Thinking more about the subject we realized that MIDs in general (like n810) and netbooks have different needs. Netbooks are more like desktops and if we tried to make something to work on netbooks and also on MIDs we would loose some power. So we decided to do something different for netbooks. Anyway, this netbook stuff will be much more lighter than plasma-desktop to run on n810 but probably it'll not have the best usability... @Jeffrey:Hi :) Yes, sometime ago (and even on techbase’s link) we talked about MIDs in general. Thinking more about the subject we realized that MIDs in general (like n810) and netbooks have different needs. Netbooks are more like desktops and if we tried to make something to work on netbooks and also on MIDs we would loose some power.

So we decided to do something different for netbooks. Anyway, this netbook stuff will be much more lighter than plasma-desktop to run on n810 but probably it’ll not have the best usability…

]]> By: Jeffery http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-168 Jeffery Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:16:11 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-168 @Morpheuz: This looks great, but I have a question. You keep referring to "netbooks", but IIRC, this concept was originally aimed at MIDs as well. Do you have any idea of the eventual resource usage? (e.g. will it run on my N810? (provided TI gives us the PowerVR 3D driver)) I have tried a full Kubuntu install with plasma-desktop, and obviously, that made my poor tablet cry, but after that video Aaron posted of plasma running on a phone, I had hopes. @Morpheuz: This looks great, but I have a question. You keep referring to “netbooks”, but IIRC, this concept was originally aimed at MIDs as well. Do you have any idea of the eventual resource usage? (e.g. will it run on my N810? (provided TI gives us the PowerVR 3D driver)) I have tried a full Kubuntu install with plasma-desktop, and obviously, that made my poor tablet cry, but after that video Aaron posted of plasma running on a phone, I had hopes.

]]> By: el barto http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-167 el barto Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:09:59 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-167 one cool thing about this, is that could be a place where can born new ideas that in the future will see in kde4. i really hope that, and good ideas. one cool thing about this, is that could be a place where can born new ideas that in the future will see in kde4.

i really hope that, and good ideas.

]]> By: morpheuz http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-166 morpheuz Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:44:58 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-166 @LXj:Maybe you're surprised because you're thinking of it as a command line. Instead of typing like "firefox" the newbie user just types "web browser". But as I said: this is all going to be experimented again. Regarding Lancelot, as I said before, some of the planned features simply doesn't match Lancelot and instead of cluttering Lancelot and making it's users unhappy, we have this. If in the end it makes sense to add to Lancelot this features, we'll do that :). That's why this project is in playground: we must be able to test new stuff without compromising too much. Marco already created some patches for KRunner and we'll have some "special queries" ready. So you'll be able to access some categories directly without the need of typing too much. SAL will not be KRunner full screen. It's this way right now because that's what you can do in ~ 3 days of work during your vacations hehe ;) KRunner in non-English locale issues should be addressed too. For some languages like portuguese it works well but not sure for russion for example....If you wanna help us on this matter, you're more than welcome :) Cheers, @LXj:Maybe you’re surprised because you’re thinking of it as a command line. Instead of typing like “firefox” the newbie user just types “web browser”. But as I said: this is all going to be experimented again.

Regarding Lancelot, as I said before, some of the planned features simply doesn’t match Lancelot and instead of cluttering Lancelot and making it’s users unhappy, we have this. If in the end it makes sense to add to Lancelot this features, we’ll do that :) . That’s why this project is in playground: we must be able to test new stuff without compromising too much.

Marco already created some patches for KRunner and we’ll have some “special queries” ready. So you’ll be able to access some categories directly without the need of typing too much. SAL will not be KRunner full screen. It’s this way right now because that’s what you can do in ~ 3 days of work during your vacations hehe ;)

KRunner in non-English locale issues should be addressed too. For some languages like portuguese it works well but not sure for russion for example….If you wanna help us on this matter, you’re more than welcome :)

Cheers,

]]> By: LXj http://blog.morpheuz.cc/08/06/2009/netbook-search-and-launch/#comment-165 LXj Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:36:06 +0000 http://blog.morpheuz.cc/?p=164#comment-165 @MoRpHeUz I am calm :) I am also surprised that search box/command line is considered less geeky than menu. Maybe it's hard to find stuff in the menu because sometimes the grouping of items into categories is counter-intuitive? As for lacking features in Lancelot -- I would be more happy if you added them to Lancelot :) Don't get me wrong, pure KRunner search interface would be great for me. I am actually more concerned about "new" users. Some of them can be not so accustomed to using keyboard, for example. Especially those tiny uncomfortable keyboards maybe a pain to use even for me Also KRunner suddenly becomes less good for me when I switch to non-English locale. @MoRpHeUz I am calm :) I am also surprised that search box/command line is considered less geeky than menu. Maybe it’s hard to find stuff in the menu because sometimes the grouping of items into categories is counter-intuitive?

As for lacking features in Lancelot — I would be more happy if you added them to Lancelot :)

Don’t get me wrong, pure KRunner search interface would be great for me. I am actually more concerned about “new” users. Some of them can be not so accustomed to using keyboard, for example. Especially those tiny uncomfortable keyboards maybe a pain to use even for me

Also KRunner suddenly becomes less good for me when I switch to non-English locale.

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