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		<title>By: OpenSuSE-lernen.de &#187; Post Topic &#187; KDE4 für Netbooks</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenSuSE-lernen.de &#187; Post Topic &#187; KDE4 für Netbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HowtoForge Linux Tutorials &#187; KDE 4 für Netbooks: Erster Ausblick</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>HowtoForge Linux Tutorials &#187; KDE 4 für Netbooks: Erster Ausblick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ist allerdings nicht vor KDE 4.4 zu rechnen. Die KDE-Entwickler Marco Martin und Artur Souza bieten in ihren Blogs aber bereits einen kleinen Ausblick. Die Plasma-Oberfläche für Netbooks [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ist allerdings nicht vor KDE 4.4 zu rechnen. Die KDE-Entwickler Marco Martin und Artur Souza bieten in ihren Blogs aber bereits einen kleinen Ausblick. Die Plasma-Oberfläche für Netbooks [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KDE 4 für Netbooks &#124; OSZine</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>KDE 4 für Netbooks &#124; OSZine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rene Levesque-Caline</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Levesque-Caline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, is there a reason why these events are videoed?
Heck, with the amount of geeks we should even have one or two live online events from there but video isnt rocket science.
Bring any video camera, put it on a tripod (but spend two minutes on getting good sound) and put in online afterwards.

KDE 4.2 is the one that I deemed ready to get my parents on.
Both are in their 70&#039;s and dad was on 3.5 but seeing my laptop he kept bugging me until I thought it was ready.
Mom never used a computer before but both love the zoom features of kwin and being able to have icons that are HUGE on the desktop.

I would hope a little more time is spend dealing with the needs of people with weak eyesight in the future.

Not a fan of top taskbar in that mid mockup. Never heard one good reason why this is necessary.

Its been a tough year since 4.0 but KDE is a thing of beauty. And I finally have a decent program (KDEnlive) for people that just want to put a few videos of their kids together with some music to put on Youtube.

A friend even told me that since I installed Mandriva on her 5 year old Acer craptop she feels envigorated when she turns on her computer now.

And while PCLinuxOS has been a favorite of mine for a few years, the 3.5 on it (while still a fine desktop) feels a bit dated now.

One thing that I would love to see is the idea of KDE apps having easy modes. Take the 5 or 10 most used features of a program and make an easy interface for it. 
If you want more features or are an advanced user, you just click a button and those options/interface take its place.
People are creatures of habit that repeat the same functions over and over. Removing all the clutter they wont ever use would make it less daunting but wouldnt dumb the program down for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, is there a reason why these events are videoed?<br />
Heck, with the amount of geeks we should even have one or two live online events from there but video isnt rocket science.<br />
Bring any video camera, put it on a tripod (but spend two minutes on getting good sound) and put in online afterwards.</p>
<p>KDE 4.2 is the one that I deemed ready to get my parents on.<br />
Both are in their 70&#8242;s and dad was on 3.5 but seeing my laptop he kept bugging me until I thought it was ready.<br />
Mom never used a computer before but both love the zoom features of kwin and being able to have icons that are HUGE on the desktop.</p>
<p>I would hope a little more time is spend dealing with the needs of people with weak eyesight in the future.</p>
<p>Not a fan of top taskbar in that mid mockup. Never heard one good reason why this is necessary.</p>
<p>Its been a tough year since 4.0 but KDE is a thing of beauty. And I finally have a decent program (KDEnlive) for people that just want to put a few videos of their kids together with some music to put on Youtube.</p>
<p>A friend even told me that since I installed Mandriva on her 5 year old Acer craptop she feels envigorated when she turns on her computer now.</p>
<p>And while PCLinuxOS has been a favorite of mine for a few years, the 3.5 on it (while still a fine desktop) feels a bit dated now.</p>
<p>One thing that I would love to see is the idea of KDE apps having easy modes. Take the 5 or 10 most used features of a program and make an easy interface for it.<br />
If you want more features or are an advanced user, you just click a button and those options/interface take its place.<br />
People are creatures of habit that repeat the same functions over and over. Removing all the clutter they wont ever use would make it less daunting but wouldnt dumb the program down for others.</p>
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		<title>By: morpheuz</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>morpheuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt: Let&#039;s see if they record, otherwise the pdf with the presentation will be uploaded for sure ;)
Cheers!</description>
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Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Parry</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Parry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  Your talk sounds very interesting!!

Can it please be videoed so that people not attending can view online.  (Hopefully all the presentations can be video taped - I&#039;m still waiting from last year)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Your talk sounds very interesting!!</p>
<p>Can it please be videoed so that people not attending can view online.  (Hopefully all the presentations can be video taped &#8211; I&#8217;m still waiting from last year)</p>
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		<title>By: morpheuz</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>morpheuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TheBlackCat: yes, a lot of the ideas can be used on general computers. Thanks to Plasma&#039;s architecture it&#039;s really easy to use any of the new containments in your current desktop shell.
Regarding the &quot;launcher strip&quot; and raptor: yes, the launcher strip itself is mostly like raptor and maybe we&#039;ll end up using raptor there. There are just some UI differences between the two, but let&#039;s see ;)

Cheers and thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TheBlackCat: yes, a lot of the ideas can be used on general computers. Thanks to Plasma&#8217;s architecture it&#8217;s really easy to use any of the new containments in your current desktop shell.<br />
Regarding the &#8220;launcher strip&#8221; and raptor: yes, the launcher strip itself is mostly like raptor and maybe we&#8217;ll end up using raptor there. There are just some UI differences between the two, but let&#8217;s see <img src='http://blog.morpheuz.cc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers and thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
		<link>http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/05/2009/vacations-netbooks-andanchors/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of those ideas look like they would be useful in general, not just for netbooks.  For instance being able to launch a full-blown application from an applet, search applet for the panel or desktop (perhaps acting as a krunner applet in non-netbooks?), present windows applet (or integrate present windows into the pager, taskbar, or window list applet), and the launcher strip menu.  

The basic principles of the newspaper containment could be applied elsewhere.  For instance if you take a single column, put it in a panel-like containment that can be resized, set to auto-hide or be covered by windows, you have a sidebar containment like discussed here:
http://forum.kde.org/sidebar-containment-t-39013.html

So I guess my point is don&#039;t make these too tightly integrated, since a lot of that stuff may find uses elsewhere.

Also, how is the &quot;launcher strip&quot; menu different from the raptor menu?  They sound similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of those ideas look like they would be useful in general, not just for netbooks.  For instance being able to launch a full-blown application from an applet, search applet for the panel or desktop (perhaps acting as a krunner applet in non-netbooks?), present windows applet (or integrate present windows into the pager, taskbar, or window list applet), and the launcher strip menu.  </p>
<p>The basic principles of the newspaper containment could be applied elsewhere.  For instance if you take a single column, put it in a panel-like containment that can be resized, set to auto-hide or be covered by windows, you have a sidebar containment like discussed here:<br />
<a href="http://forum.kde.org/sidebar-containment-t-39013.html" rel="nofollow">http://forum.kde.org/sidebar-containment-t-39013.html</a></p>
<p>So I guess my point is don&#8217;t make these too tightly integrated, since a lot of that stuff may find uses elsewhere.</p>
<p>Also, how is the &#8220;launcher strip&#8221; menu different from the raptor menu?  They sound similar.</p>
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